Steam Machines [Impressions, DIY, etc]

Discussion in 'Hardware / Gaming Gear' started by Blagg Zear, Nov 11, 2015.

  1. Blagg Zear

    Blagg Zear Moderator Staff Member

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    So steam machines are coming officially to the market.

    What's your impression?

    Future Thoughts about it?

    Any suggestions for DIY Steam Machines? -> Let's say you want to squeeze as much performance as possible into a case of the size of a console, e.g. 30x10x30cm / sub10l
    best if price is limited to console priced, sub 400 bucks.
     
  2. Blagg Zear

    Blagg Zear Moderator Staff Member

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    Here is a Case i'd love to use for a DIY Project - even mATX Boards fit!

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  3. SkiDog

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    That's a good look. Tight inside too. Perfect op for some cram-fu.
    Would you go SS 2.5 with it? or to a traditional 3.5 for the bulk storage?

    So would you actually run the Steam OS, or would you be going with a stripped down Win OS with the steam DDS?..... Since the Steam OS is Linux based it would cut you off from some unsupported gaming goodness, but it would get you away from MS bloatware....
     
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  5. enileph

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    Will it fit into this old box of mine?
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    Would be a good mod.

    PS: No worries, I still have a healthy one going for all those shootemups I have. This one is dead, really dead.
     
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  6. SkiDog

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    17 x 17cm That would be some good cram fu
     
  7. Blagg Zear

    Blagg Zear Moderator Staff Member

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    1) SSD + Bluray Drive
    2) I'd try Multiboot with both, but rather would use Win10 over proprietary Linux-GPU Drivers, and SteamOS just to try it out and hope Valve can make the Game Studios support SteamOS in the Future - what i believe could be possible if they can earn more money effectively - depends on the success of such console-PCs

    My current mobile Rig is some kind already SteamMachine-ish:

    Xeon E3-1240, 16GB DDR3, R9 270X, 512GB SSD, Sharkoon ca-m (Cube)

    But that case has 27x22,5x28,5cm / 17l and value at 700 Bucks
     
  8. SkiDog

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    Shouldn't be a problem with indie games, but trying to get a main publisher to support a Linux based OS is like pulling teeth.... the nice thing is it's Linux, and make it work wizards abound... It will be interesting to see how this matures.
     
  9. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah Staff Member

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    I took my monster beast from a full sized tower, Corsair 780T, down to a mid tower, Fractal Design R5 Blackout.

    I7 5930K, 32gb DDR-2666 ram, 2x 980 Ti Superclocked, 256gb SSD (boot drive), 512gb SSD (Game drive)

    Viola. Steam machine!
     
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  10. SkiDog

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    @Michael Dream Machine..... wish I had the money to drop on that rig.
     
  11. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah Staff Member

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    I won't be spending that again at one go ever. It was my once in a lifetime lol. I have a little bit more to spend (new sli bridge and cable combs) but then I'm done.
     
  12. SkiDog

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    Did you post pics?
     
  13. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah Staff Member

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    Of the old system? Yes. Of the new case and build? No as I'm not done yet.
     
  14. SkiDog

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    Looking forward to seeing this beast when it's finished.
     
  15. Blagg Zear

    Blagg Zear Moderator Staff Member

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    So here are some DIY Ideas for the price range of 350 - 500 Bucks (nothing powerful like Michael's 10K $ "STEAM" Machine. :p)

    The goal is to get a console-type HTPC, which can serve as a light Gaming Machine, powerful enough to run the currently steamOS compatible games, and on the other hand is a wonderful Multimedia Tool for e.g. Bluray/4K Material Playback etc.

    Another Goal is to beat the official Steam Machines Configs in performance & price!

    Here are some specs from the basic config of the Alienware Steam Machines:

    CPU: Intel Core i3-4170T, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3,2 GHz, 3 MB L3 Cache
    GPU1: Intel HD Graphics 4400, 200 – 1.150 MHz
    GPU2: Nvidia GeForce GTX 860M (GM107), 2 GB GDDR5
    RAM: 4 GB DDR3 1.600 MHz
    HDD: 2,5", 500 GB, 7.200 U/min, SATA
    Price: ~$449.99

    Link: http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-steam-machine/pd

    Other Steam Machines & Specs: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2893...ails-and-pictures-for-every-model.html#slide1

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    Here are my attempts via pcpartpicker:

    Low Budget/Casual Gaming/4K Movie Entertainment:
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    Showcase (Slideshow): https://pcpartpicker.com/b/vTjcCJ?comment_sort=newest



    CPU: A10-7870K, 4x 3,9 GHz (Turbo 4,1 GHz), TDP 95 Watts, 4 MB L2 Cache,
    GPU: Radeon R7 integrated
    MB: A88X Mini ITX
    RAM: 8GB (Dual Channel) DDR3-2133 MHz
    HDD: 2,5", 1 TB, 7.200 U/min, SATA
    OPT: LG Bluray/DVD/CD Read/Writer
    Case: Apevia X-Fit 200 Mini ITX Tower 307mm x 200mm x 105mm / Vol. <6.5 l
    Price: < $400 (<$350 without BD Drive/only DVD Writer)


    Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zpnqt6
    (hints: Apevia X-Fit 100 is even smaller/console-ish with dimensions 307mm x 200mm x 78mm, but requires Slim format Drive! Otherwise if desired can replace by any other mini ITX Case found elsewhere e.g Amazon/Ebay/etc.)

    Pros: Very Cheap, very power efficient, good disk space for SteamOS gaming, Bluray Drive, very compact like a console
    Cons: relative Low Gaming Performance/1080+high details not playable with many AAA-Titles, but sufficient for official SteamOS Games & good enough for E-Sport Gaming, some resource-efficient AAA-Titles can be playable @1080p/720p, just check it up in Reviews, not future proof (very limited upgradeability)


    APU Godavari Performance Showcase (Playlist):



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    Game Performance / Future Upgradeable / Alienware Alpha Killer:
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    CPU: i3-4170, 2 Cores, 4 Threads, 3,7GHz (no Turbo), 3MB L3 Cache, TDP 54 Watts,
    GPU1: Intel HD Graphics 4400, 350 - 1.150 MHz
    GPU2: Nvidia GeForce GTX 950 (GM206), 2GB DDR5
    RAM: 8 GB (Dual Channel) DDR3-1.600 MHz
    HDD: 2,5", 1 TB, 7.200 U/min, SATA
    OPT: LG Bluray/DVD/CD Read/Writer
    Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Mini ITX Tower 240 x 207.4 x 401.4mm / Vol. <20 l
    Price: ~$500 (~$450 without BD Drive/only DVD Writer)


    Link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VWjGQ7
    (hints: The Cooler Master 110 is even smaller 260x208x280mm / Vol. ~15 l, also cheaper, but no Optical drive and GPU Length <210mm only)

    Pros: Steam Machines Price-Performance-Killer, good 1080p Gaming Performance for most current Win-Games, very power efficient, good disk space for SteamOS gaming, Bluray Drive, very compact PC Case (Barebone-like), very Future-Upgradeable
    Cons: not as compact as consoles, higher Price than current Gen consoles, not as powerful (and Big) as Michael's Ultra-"STEAM"-Machine (also costs <10% of his :p)


    GTX 950 Review: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_950_strix_review,1.html



    Also very interesting: http://lanoc.org/review/video-cards/7121-gtx-950-sli-testing


    p.s. Don't forget to get the Steam/Xbox360/One Controller for Gaming! ^_^
     
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  16. Michael

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    Lol don't pick on the Ti Fighter. I play witcher and mass effect series over steam plus Rome 2 and Payday2 so technically it is a steam machine. :)
     
  17. Blagg Zear

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  18. Michael

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    My sons PC will be a steam machine although a cross between what is posted here and my own machine. 5820k, 16gb of ddr4-2666 and a single 980 Ti and a 1080p monitor (maybe one of my old ones if I upgrade to the X34 soon as they get bugs worked out).

    I showed these to him but he thinks they are too small LOL
     
  19. Blagg Zear

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    When i was a kid, i only got a Nintendo... 30+ yrs laters.. Kiddos get a "single 980 Ti" for Gaming.. incredible. :p
     
  20. Michael

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    Yeah but 30 years ago the Nintendo DS was leaps and bounds above the Intellivision or the Commodore64 or the Atari. I had Intellivision and then a Commodore 128. I looked at my friends with the Nintendo with envy.

    Thinking about the Steam Machine I'm not really sure I get the concept. Why build a slower PC... on purpose?
     

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