MWO: Origins IIC, Pre-Order up.

Welp.
Weeelp.
First linkage to the page. Because.
https://mwomercs.com/origins

Jenner IIC

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Regardless of variant, all JR7-IIC versions have XL315 - which is also their cap. All are Ferro and Endo, with 134 points of armour. JR7-IIC-2 has 9 jump jets, with 10 being the max. The rest are all 7, capped out at 7. Finally JR7-IIC-A has 12 DHS, the rest have 10. As Clan Mechs, all have CASE.
IIC

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LA - SRM 6 (2M)
LT - JJ, SRM Ammo (AMS)
CT - JJ, SSRM 4 (2M)
RT - JJ, SRM Ammo, SSRM Ammo
RA - SRM 6 (2M)
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

IIC-2

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LA - Small Pulse (2E)
LT - JJ x2 (AMS)
CT - JJ, LRM 5 (1M)
RT - JJ x2, LRM Ammo
RA - ER LLas (2E)
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

IIC-3

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LA - Small Pulse x2 (2E)
LT - JJ (AMS)
CT - JJ, NARC (2M)
RT - JJ, NARC Ammo x2
RA - Small Pulse x2 (2E)
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

IIC-A

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LA - Small Pulse x3 (3E)
LT - JJ (AMS)
CT - JJ
RT - JJ
RA - Small Pulse x3 (3E)
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

Hunchback IIC

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Regardless of variant, all HBK-IIC versions have XL200 - with a cap of 275. All are Standard Armor and Endo. All carry their max of 4 jump jets. As Clan Mechs, all have CASE.
IIC

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192 Armor, 12 DHS
LA - DHS x2
LT - UAC/20, UAC/20 Ammo (2B, AMS)
CT - ER MLas x2 (2E)
RT - UAC/20, UAC/20 Ammo (2B, AMS)
RA - DHS x2
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

IIC-A

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256 Armor, 20 DHS
LA - DHS x3
LT - ER LLas, MPlas x2, DHS x2 (3E, AMS)
CT - ER MLas x2 (2E)
RT - ER LLas, MPlas x2, DHS x2 (3E)
RA - DHS x3
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

IIC-B

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256 Armor, 16 DHS
LA - DHS x3
LT - SSRM6 x2, SSRM Ammo x2, DHS (2M, AMS)
CT - MPlas x2 (2E)
RT - SSRM6 x2, SSRM Ammo x2, DHS (2M)
RA - DHS x3
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

IIC-C

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192 Armor, 12 DHS
LA - ER MLas, DHS x2 (1E)
LT - UAC/10, UAC/10 Ammo x2, (1B, AMS)
CT - ER MLas x2 (2E)
RT - UAC/10, UAC/10 Ammo x2, (1B)
RA - ER MLas, DHS x2 (1E)
LL - JJ x2
RL - JJ x2

 

Orion IIC

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All are Ferro and Endo, with 460 points of armour. All run 300 Engines with a cap of 360, Standard vs. XL will be in their respective spoiler tag. No jump capability.
IIC

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Standard Engine, 12 DHS
LA - LRM 20, ER LLas (1M, 1E)
LT - SRM 4, LRM Ammo x 3, SRM Ammo (2M, AMS)
CT -
RT - Gauss Rifle, Gauss Ammo x2 (1B)
RA - ER LLas (2E)
LL -
RL -

IIC-A
Standard Engine, 12 DHS

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LA - LRM 15 x2, ER LLas (2M, 1E)
LT - SRM 4 x2, LRM Ammo x4, SRM Ammo x2 (2M, AMS)
CT -
RT - UAC/5, UAC/5 Ammo x2 (1B)
RA - ER LLas (1E)
LL -
RL -

IIC-B
XL Engine, 17 DHS

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LA - SRM 6, ER LLas x2 (1M, 2E)
LT - SRM 4, SRM Ammo x4, DHS (1M, AMS)
CT - DHS
RT - Gauss Rifle, Gauss Ammo x2, DHS (1B)
RA - ER LLas x2 (2E)
LL - DHS
RL - DHS

IIC-C

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XL Engine, 15 DHS
LA - LRM 15, ER LLas, LRM Ammo x2 (1M, 1E)
LT - SRM 4, SRM Ammo, DHS x3 (2M, AMS)
CT - UAC/10 Ammo
RT - UAC/10 x2, UAC/10 Ammo x2 (2B)
RA - ER LLas
LL -
RL -

Highlander IIC

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All run 270 Engines with a cap of 325, Standard vs. XL will be in their respective spoiler tag. All with 3 jump jets, capped.
IIC

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Standard Engine, 556 Ferro, Standard Internal, 12 DHS
LA -SSRM6 x2 (2M)
LT - MPlas x3, JJ, LRM+A Ammo x4, SSRM Ammo (3E, AMS)
CT - JJ
RT - LRM20+A, JJ, Gauss Ammo x3 (1M)
RA - Gauss Rifle (1B)
LL - DHS
RL - DHS

IIC-A

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Standard Engine, 544 Standard, Endo, 20 DHS
LA - SSRM6, DHS x2 (1M)
LT - ER PPC x2, JJ, LRM Ammo, DHS x3 (2E)
CT - JJ
RT - LRM20, JJ, LRM Ammo x2, SSRM Ammo x3, DHS (2M, AMS)
RA - ER PPC, DHS x2 (2E)
LL - DHS
RL - DHS

IIC-B

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Standard Engine, 544 Standard, Endo, 14 DHS
LA - SSRM6 x2 (2M)
LT - MPlas x2, JJ, LRM Ammo x4, SSRM Ammo x2, DHS (2E, AMS)
CT - JJ
RT - LRM15, JJ, Gauss Ammo x3, DHS (2M)
RA - Gauss Rifle (1B)
LL - DHS
RL - DHS

IIC-C

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XL Engine, 556 Ferro, Standard Internal, 14 DHS
LA - SSRM6, SSRM Ammo (1M)
LT - MPlas x3, JJ, LRM Ammo x4, DHS (3E, AMS)
CT - JJ
RT - LRM20, JJ, UAC/10 Ammo x3, DHS (1M)
RA - UAC/10 x2, UAC/10 Ammo (2B)
LL - DHS
RL -DHS

I am going to take a quick moment to knee jerk as I look at the Jenner IIC. RIP, IS Jenner. RIP.
- IIC standard will obsolete the Oxide.
- IIC-2 obsoletes the K
- IIC-3, the D
- IIC-A will obsolete the F.
Unless there are some serious negative quirks, *or* some serious quirk boosts to the IS Jenner.

 

Pretty much that. Even if the IS Jenners get some good quirks or IIC's get neg quirks, it won't matter. The IIC-A, for instance, can still run the stock loadout and be superior to the JR7-F in every way but MLas range...with 6 SPLs and a stock XL 315, it has heavy DPS, and will be faster than the Firestarter, Raven, and Jenner with Speed Tweak, all while being able to mount more JJs than those mechs generally take. Or it can drop them for some more DHS and be even better at DPS while infighting. A lot of people are already calling the Jenner IIC the new light meta.

Naturally, I already preordered mine

Additional thoughts:

HBK-IIC: Missed opportunity not having the IIC-4, which was an ECM model. Good variation on hardpoints though; one energy boat, one missile brawler or LRM platform, one ballistic boat, and the early adopter will likely feature a lot of Dual Gauss/AC20 builds. Looks solid, and clan XL will help it a lot.

ON1-IIC: Noticed right away that two variants have STD engines, so that's nice. Not much variation in the hardpoint options, which is disappointing, but you'll be able to do several good builds with them.

HGN-IIC: Again, mix of standard and XL on the stock builds, but clan XL means it's less dangerous here. Decent variation on the hardpoints (but nowhere near as good as the HBK), should accommodate a variety of builds.

Overall: They all look solid, and clantech will be nice...but they all have a good chance that they will obsolete their IS versions, barring quirk passes on those mechs. Each of these honestly seems superior to the IS version in just about every respect.

 

Extremely solid, I was looking at the HBK-IIC and ON1-IIC loadouts, they look insane in terms of how much free space they they have. HBK has some of the most versatile hardpoints, but will lack speed to be a really good medium. The Orion will be a tad slow, for it's weight, but with the amount of free space it will have, it should be capable of tons of damage.

 

Nice mechs. Not so nice to get another mech package this soon. PGI has really stepped up the mech output.

Will consider this, been buying every pack so the extras aren't too tantalizing.

 

How long did it take between getting the notice and buying the pack?

 

Jenner IIC is a instabuy^^

 

Maybe it's time I stop playing this game.

 

Only a few seconds before I get the Jenner IIC... then some hours before I get the packages.

That dome head. What a classic Jenner would look like.

 

Just the paintscheme annoys me,...

 

Well, you know they will all end up purple anyways.

 

So how does adjustments work on these mechs - what can you change in/out?

 

Interestingly those are the first paint jobs in ages I've liked.

 

You can change engines, but they use Clan XLs. You can change weapons and equipment, but they use clantech (cAP, cAMS, ceverything). Weapon hardpoints themselves are fixed, because these are not Omni-tech and won't have omnipods. Because of no omni-pods, also looks like NO fixed tech (JJs, heatsinks, etc.).

Do we know if we'll be able to swap Endo/Ferro on these? Also curious if swappable engines will create a new type in game (Clan XL) or if dropping a regular XL will just auto-utilize the correct tech (three slots in each torso for IS, two for Clan).

Ridonkulus and good mix of hardpoint choices to keep any of them from being too similar. But yeah, outside of CW restrictions, these obsolete certain variants pretty hardcore.

 

limited Early Adopter Variants are best, the rest ok. Hmm, maybe i will grab the Collection..

 

I think that the Orion will be used rarely at best. It's competing with the Timber Wolf in every way.

...mind you, I'm thinking of picking it up to try the chassis out before picking up the IS version. But that's neither here nor there.

 

Orion was classified as an assault at one point.
But I feel you.
Jenner ftw.