CTF-4X The Howler (2x UAC5, 2x AC5, XL255)

Thread in 'CTF-4X' started by Aware, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    This build should be even better now with the CD buff to AC5s (and make DHS more needed). My one concern is that it is an ammo-dependent mech with (by my math) 63 seconds of fire time from the AC5s and (no jams) 69 seconds from UACs. Good for over 1000 damage (all hits), but in a prolonged fight, especially against lights, could be an issue.

    I'll have to give this one a try, though, or at least play around in Smurfy with some of the various AC5, AC2, and UAC5 combinations. Hmmm...I wonder if there's a 2xUAC5 + AC5 + AC2 + 2xML build in there...I'll have to try it...
     
  2. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    Def post your results as I have a feeling the next Benefactors' video will be Ilya / Cataphract based and I'll be looking into the min/max builds for the phracts.
     
  3. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    Well, it looks like it would have much less sustained DPS but a bit higher burst. I won't be home til probably after 1 AM tomorrow morning, so I'll post it then.

    Part of the issue is that AC/2s are very inefficient in terms of heat, so they're generally a sustained DPS loss over other ACs. This build is probably about as min/maxed as you can get for a sustained DPS build, I just don't like the idea it can run out of ammo.
     
  4. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    We are in agreement, holy moly! LOL Anything that is completely ammo dependent is just asking to get hung out to dry; ESPECIALLY when 12v12 comes out.
     
  5. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    Yeah, but the DPS before you go dusty is impressive.
     
  6. Dirt Dart

    Dirt Dart New Member

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    I did a similar build off this. I couldn't afford the XL engine, don't like the vulnerability of them anyway.



    This build is great for backing up an Atlas or other slow moving group. I put the cannons on chain fire and never stop firing at a targets in range. Have them all grouped for an Alfa strike when a back shot opens up. I have chewed up several Heavy and Assaults that were not paying attention or locked on a larger target. Hardly ever have a heat problem. Just don't get caught out in the open alone. It can take several hits, but is slow to turn or chase fast runners.
     
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  7. Sassafras

    Sassafras MechSpecs Addict

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    I decided to give this build a try last night after leaving my 4X in moth balls for a few months. I know I tried it before and wasn't a huge fan, but it may be because I was in a sniping mood at the time, and this build definitely is not for that.

    Anyways, I tried it again, playing more of a brawling role, and this thing is just ridiculous. I did overheat a few times, which confused me, until I realized I had never upgraded the chassis to double heatsinks. Even with only 10 single heatsinks, though, this build is still a beast, and you only overheat if you go crazy on the UAC5's.

    Running out of ammo was a bigger problem as I finished off three rounds with no ammo, lumbering around trying to soak up damage for my teammates. That said, because of the low slung arms on the Phracts, I did shoot a considerable amount of ammo into small hills and rocks before I got back into the hang of the chassis.
     
  8. Cpt Chattahah

    Cpt Chattahah Min-Max Maniac

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    Now the ultimate 4X build! Ran this earlier and it is ungodly!
     
  9. BindMind

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    The Ilya Chainsaw build is far superior in solo queue, but in a formed lance this thing is absolutely terrifying, especially after the UAC buffs.
     
  10. Novarum

    Novarum New Member

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    Love this build, have been running it as my primary solo queue mech for a while. However, I found myself getting side torso-ed a lot. After experimentation, I found that replacing the AC5s with AC2s allowed me to gain the tonnage to move from a XL255 to a STD 240. Heating becomes somewhat of a problem, but the extra survival and range is great!

     
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  11. SabbatH

    SabbatH Junior Member

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    CTF-4X

    My current build.

    I know there is not huge amount of ammo but I start playing with chain fire and when I get a clear shot view I switch to full fire. I think in every mech build you need a weapon which does not need ammo thats why I add 2 medium lasers for additional protection.
     
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