Troll Voting Arguement/Discussion/Whatever

Well, there are some guys here, which like to do this silent 1Star Crap... very dishonorable. :angry:

This Build wrecks havoc on Earth! I witnessed it personally

 

Hardly troll when it gives up its strongest attribute for a couple of machine guns. This may as well be on the 3s, where it fits better.

It's my opinion of the build, I don't have to run it to recognize the same damn build I have on my 3S.

For this variant, I find it average, so i placed my vote so that it displayed as such.

It really is no one's business who voted what. And yes it was me you were all crying about when this chassis was released. I was the only one who had any experience in the damn thing and determined my votes at the time expressly on that experience that I did have. 90% of the crap posted at the time was just that and I voted it as such in order to drive the progression of builds toward something workable. But no, you had a fucking hissy fit and decided it was trolling because you couldn't handle being told the truth about your shit builds.

It is no one's business who votes what on anything here. Please, prove me right by retaliate voting against me.

 

Votes are subjective.

It is considered good form to back up your opinion as to WHY someone feels a build deserves this or that in ratings but you certainly can't report a post because someone disagrees with your opinion of your own build.

Going forward, please keep this in mind.

 

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=144&l=ada7fa0c1afe151dc080b44c18ac296485f3f975
Would put ammo like this so the ST ammo gets used first.

Hmmm... drama as expacted.
Though sometimes I would wonder about votes with 1-star though. 3-5 stars, hower, can be anything depending on personal taste and style.

 

well i consider 1Star Votes with absolutely NO comment despite the success someone or even many have with the build (1K+ Scores) as a Trollvote.

You can vote what you like, but don't expect Acceptance from the OP or other members give you credits for it.

And don't come with your "aw-i-got-the-most-experience-with-this-mech" Crap. This doesn't excuse the way how you act here on Voting. We are here to give constructive feedback. Comment pls. Thank you

 

And just so we are clear, I did not vote 1 star on everything. I voted what I felt was appropriate and have revisited quite a few of them in order to alter my vote accordingly.

[quote author=Blagg Zear link=topic=6809.msg44697#msg44697 date=1402263776]
And don't come with your "aw-i-got-the-most-experience-with-this-mech" Crap.
[/quote]

At the time, nothing could be truer.

You and yours created the environment where no comments could be shared in that first week with your witch hunt. Talk more about bans because a few builds got voted low.

 

never said that you would do it that way. And i expected nothing else from all voters here to vote what was felt appropriate. I just spoke from "some guys here". If you feel addressed. Fine. Just keep in mind, that this site is all about posting Mechbuilds to share experience with others, and on the other hand giving other members the option to share their experience with other`s posted builds as well. Voting is a form to give feedback. But a constructive feedback with Explaination about the Weakpoints etc. would be much more helpful for new members (or old ones). I have no problem, if you find a build crap and give it a 1Star. But justify it, so the OP can rethink the build. I hope this is not too much demanded for you.

Wow, i didn`t know that i am responsible for so many things here. I must be the DevilIncarnate!

If you have a problem with my Opinion about silent 1Star Votes and don`t want to change, ok just keep on doing it the way you like it. In the end we have no choice but to accept ppl like you here.

p.s. what witch hunt??

 

Another matter.

If people can upvote without their name being seen they they should be able to downvote without their name being seen.

 

When Banshees were first released and builds began being posted during their MC week there was a little witch hunt, which you led, in order to find out who was down voting almost all of the builds being posted. It didn't matter that the builds were shit, just that they were being down voted. It forced Micheal to find a way to identify who voted what. It appears that thread has been removed, probably because it was in the first week of posts in the Banshee section.

 

ow that one. I remember.. Yes i am responsible for the Update for this site considering the Votes. :blush: But in the end it is good to see who voted what, so that all the members here can see exactly, what member voted what and how relevant that specific vote was depending on the reasons. I think everyone here can think about how to vote (w/o comment). It`s your choice and how you want others to put relevance in your vote.

If you think this whole update concept was a witch hunt project, you are wrong. It was all about more transparency - actually a good thing. I don`t see a problem with the recent voting+view system according downvotes or even 1Star votes. If you have a good reason, no Problem - you still CAN vote with 1-5 Stars! Your Choice. I myself and i believe all of the Mechbuilds Posters here only wish to read commented (especially 1Star) Votes, even for the really real true crap builds. Maybe some new MWO Player is just experimenting some ideas and has absolutely no experience with Builds. Coming up with some crazy ideas, which really doesn`t work in reality. How do you think, a 1Star Vote with no comment would help him to make a better gaming experience?

Gosh, i wonder why i have to explain so much. For me this constructive way of forum activity at mechspecs.com is so self-explanatory.

Forget what i have said.. Only you can know what is appropriate for your activity here.

My Review to the The Elephant Hunter - it`s a powerful build, even if the MGs might be a personal taste. Know how to put the Weapons in tactical Weapon Groups and it can be devastating for all Ranges. The Power of it is cruel as how the OP showed in his testround. Maybe there are some better builds for the 3E, but doesn`t change the fact, that it has the Power to perform 7 Kills and 1300+ Damage. 1-3 is imho inappropriate. But that`s only my opinion.

 

YOU have a choice on whether you want your name known or not. If you don't want it shown then don't vote (up or down). Then you don't have to worry. If you stand behind your vote with some conviction then justify (in your own opinion) why you voted the way you did. Everyone with half a brain understands that votes are subjective and if it doesn't work for you explain why it doesn't work for you.

Your feedback will help others make their decisions.

As for these guys and their witchhunt. There has been a bit of that yes. Some of the guys on MechSpecs are butthurt that their (in their mind) awesome builds are not 5 stars across the board and they get a little testy about that. They will very quickly learn not to cry and stomp their feet about this or they will find their posting privilages revoked, regardless of their member status (Benefactors or not).

(shrugs)

I have neither the time, nor the patience, to deal with the drama.

 

Blagg you name dropping me in here?

Yes little ones I have come to bring the joy back into this little thread, and put it back on topic. I like the build, most of it can be done on the 3S though, so suicidal baby has a point.

 

Sorry forgot that YOU are the DevilIncarnate!

That the build can be done on the 3S is correct. Also the BFG build for the Huncback & Blackjack can be done on two different variants. Does this justify a downvote? I mean, the build works regardless on which Variant you run it, right? So, yeah, maybe some players will also run this build on the 3S (without the MGs). Might be boring (honestly i do find it boring myself).. yeah, but does it mean, the Build is good for the one Variant but Crap on the other? This is not logical. Maybe not using the unique HPs of the specific Variant would be a reason, but.. well, there was never a rule to absolutely must run Variant-specific builds or otherwise it`s crap..

 

And there never was a rule saying he couldn't down vote because he feels another variant can do it better

Just remember, all this stuff is just personal preference, not to mention the reasons for voting.

 

He actually can.. Just as I said before.. Let`s stop this discussion. Doesn`t lead to anywhere. Comment your vote if you really want to help other people here. Or leave it. Downvoting with lowest star without comment is not appropriate imo. These are my last words on this issue. Lets get on to other more interesting stuffs.

 

Well bargained and done blagg

 

So as I thought. The same 3S build done worse. Trades 3 mlasers for 2 machine guns, which is not an upgrade. Your score doesn't mean much when it's at such a low elo against targets that lack basic skills. Might as well be running a 10ton lighter Misery or the 3S where this build is done better.

 

Agree or not, I am happy that an explaination is given.
Now everyone can play nice and go back to business as usual.

Speaking of which it IS a good loadout foy Misery.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=75&l=11a590d53d47a2450779109c3858327b51e5e456