http://mwomercs.com/forums/topic/151996-a-new-game-mode-classic-bt-stock-game/ (Actual verbal content added by Admin)
How about a discussion made of actual words and sentences, just not plain links? (just to say that I find your OP pretty rude) About stock mechs games, considering how bad stock mechs are... no comment. And I don't think you'll find a lot of support for this idea on a site of players taking a lot of enjoyment customizing mechs. That being said, I'm not against a classic Battletech "game type" (it's server settings actually) allowing customisation under strict rules, only allowing 3025ish equipment: no ER, pulse, UAC, streaks, gauss, ECM, DHS, XL engine, etc... in fact I'd like that, from time to time.
The link is actual what? Anyhow not an actual way to start a discussion. A simple copy/paste (and/or "here is the link for a suggestion I made on the official forum, what do you think?") would have shown a little respect for us, that's all I say. PS: thanks dear admin , but I edited back my first message to make my image appear as a link. That's how I want it and how it's supposed to be meaningful.
Politics 101. If you want to recruit votes, you shake hands, talk to people, explain your cause, inspire the audience, kiss the babies, etc. Simply copy pasting a link says nothing and is uninteresting to the general reader. That was the nice explanation. Good luck.
How about NO! The champion mech would be OP in that sense, since many normal stock are armed with shit shs and other crap, and the champs are somewhat tweaked at least. So basically it is a p2w mode with champs and a few mech.
Even if Champ mechs were disabled, does anyone here really want to run an Awesome with 3 PPCs and Standard Heatsinks? Even without the ghost heat penalties, that would be fun for about 5 seconds.
I actually really like the idea of a stock mech fight. I wouldn't want a specific mode or PGI to invest any time into this, but you would be able to accomplish this later with the private match system coming soonâ„¢ Organize mechs and such in TS on a trust system. Games would last a lot longer because mechs are not optimized machines of assured death and complete destruction. With the 3/3/3/3 system that might be in place and proper organization, this would be very fun and appealing to me. Not as a game-mode though, more of a community event with friends.
I would play if it is a community/friendly thing, but not as a game mode. We KNOW that PGI would not ban MC mech in any modes, and we know what happens for champs to go against stock, which is why I am against a game mode on it. But yeah, an option to activate that in private match would be lovely, provided that we do not have to modify our mech back into stock (that would be expensive to either buy an extra mech for it, or to shit-grade your mach back into SHS, or back and forth) Then agan, there are loads of fun things we can/should be able to do as a community... like crazy mech-class only matches, or solaris... Solaris should be a game mode though, totally. Better allow recording or audience, I am so going to watch it.
If it was no skills unlocked, stock weapons, engine and heat sink COUNT, but, with DHS, I would actually really enjoy this! This could be a great break from the Meta norm. I would enjoy the new flavor with manageable heat. However, Stock JM6-DD, STK-3F and HGN-733C would be pretty OP as compared to a JR7-F w/ 4x MLas and 113kph or stock BJ-1 w/ 2x AC2s and only one ton of ammo... Actually, the lack of ammo would probably be the biggest factor (after heat) that would deter people. So many stock loadouts were glaringly unacceptable during 8v8s, now, with 12 enemies, the ammo counts would be terrible. However, with everyone using low ammo counts, it would force more thought out and careful team play to accomplish the needed damage. Each match ending with the keepers of the energy finishing off the injured. Meh. Interesting, but, I think they would need to make the game mode so you could select your Chassis (EG, Jenner, Hunchie, Fract, ect) and there would only be one available Variant that PGI made viable for current gameplay and everyone had the same loadout for each Chassis. Again, interesting idea, but, lots of holes.
I can see the issue of SHS vs DHS. Maybe a league can post a list of acceptable, adaptations of stock builds balancing them SLIGHTLY to meet actual gameplay requirements for a playable build. Otherwise there would be immediate mechs that obviously have an advantage/disadvantage. I actually like the idea of SHS and stock ammo. Heat management becomes a huge issue for energy mechs, but it is balanced by ballistic mechs with low ammo count. It would result in much longer face-to-face battles. The out-come will be more determined by a player's piloting, tactics, and heat-management rather than just the min/max of his mech. Seems like so many min/max builds are just too easy to play with (3ERLLas ECM, pop-tart 2PPC 2AC5, 2AC5 2AC2 dakkas, etc). Not that I have a problem with those build in MWO, but for THIS particular style of game, you have to let go of the "uber-effective" min/max mentality down to a core level. The only min/max I can see is to balance other mechs to keep them as close to stock as possible. More like... the Minimum Maxing of a mech..... wait....
I like the idea as well, Sol. However, the few mechs that do come with DHS would become SLAUGHTERHOUSES! Think about your TBT-7M with DHS and LRM 30. Sure, not much ammo, however, no overheating. ON1-M with the double shotgun (LBX and SRM) 2x MLas and an LRM. Decent ammo, over 400 armor and high heat efficiency. AWS-9M: Has 3x ERPPC, but, DHS. Fire them at a distance and then only fire one, with the MLas and Streaks up close. The STK-5M is playable right out of the box! There isn't even a downside. Plenty of LRM and SRM ammo for their launchers, 4x MLas and an ERLLas. When I purchased that, all I did was drop the NARC to up the engine and armor. Those mechs will DOMINATE anything on the field with standards. If they simply made this gamemode with one playable variant of each chassis (think of it as a new trial-only w/ better trials) I think it could be very fun. Hell, even with only 4 mechs, a Trial-Only game mode could be fun with the trials they chose lately.
