CLOSED AdBlock - your site's nagware element

You do realize that the nagware element you show when AdBlock is detected can just be individually blocked, right? Specifically, why display it at all?

 

And you are free to block it however that helps illustrate exactly WHY it is displayed.

This community costs money to run on an annual basis; several hundred dollars most times (traffic depending). We aren't a community that tries to sell you shit at stupid prices, we aren't a community that has taken money, or products, and then claim to provide an "unbiased" opinion. We are a community that is funded completely by players who really do enjoy Mechwarrior Online and the overall Battletech universe. Passionate people.

People that wanna use the service and never leave a mark or really contribute to it? What is that old saying? "Those that matter don't mind and those that mind don't matter?"

 

Thank you for responding to my first post by informing me that I don't matter. Really class act, there.

 

Thank you for making your first post a troll post about something so inconsequential; as I said, if you want to block it you go right ahead.

 

ROFLMAO, what a dick! Seriously dude? Nothing says I want it all and I want it for free like a whiner. Banned? I'm surprised you got in a second post.

 

Mmmm, everyone has the right to their opinion here. I respect that and in fact I insist upon it; we don't silence people for saying PGI sucks or for asking the hard questions. However, that being said, being confrontational and registering just so you can post a troll post? Yeah, that doesn't fly. It is what it is.

 

That wasn't it at all. I was broaching the subject as a logic failure of your site design with respect to the nagware element. The nagware element is displayed when software is detected that is designed to block specific elements. Think about that for a second. There are numerous ways that the industry has invented to tackle this specific 'problem' and increase the probability of a user whitelisting the site and increase revenue.

I wasn't trolling, I wasn't complaining about your site's ads. I'm already blocking them as you could tell. I think you're seeing trolls where they don't exist. Had you asked what I meant instead of assuming I was a troll, we could have had a conversation about it.

 

sites funded through ads. people don't like ads so adblocker was created. sites want to remain funded via unbiased advertisement so counter to adblocker is created. people don't like ads so counter to adblocker is complained about. If you don't like the site, don't use it, we don't welcome whiners complaining about what keeps the site running. We care more about the community's survival than something so trivial.

 

Again, that wasn't it....at all.

 

then

 

If the site is entirely funded thru ads... why charge money for a VIP account on the site.

For profit?

Btw, this is just a forum - maintaining a domain is like, 10 bucks a year. Hosting a forum on it is, technically, free. You could just redirect the domain to some scrubforum.

I just fail to see why theres anything on this website that costs money, at all. In fact, it seems kinda shady. I think that's the ops angle, that he gets annoyed by something that basically wants him to spend money. For nothing.

 

It was more of a general flow of sites, not Mechspecs specifically.Good point though. However, VIPs, benefactors, Space Pimps, etc only last so long. Not sure how much of a factor that has on the site fees these days. Donations have been reduced to a subscription based system which i'm sure doesn't draw in as much money...

 

I'm just talking out loud, ya know. Transparency, etc. Like, is there even some people doing legit paywalled content on a consistent basis? If the answer is yes, is that even apparent enough? Look at me - I dunno, yet I use the site daily. Yada yada...

 

I wish. The server and bandwidth are what kill the chance of profit not the domain upkeep. MWO is a game with a paltry number of players compared to games like say Star Citizen or LoL or WoT. In fact, truth me told, I am surprised the game is still going. There just isn't enough pie to go around HOWEVER we provide an avenue for those who like to participate in a community where people who skate for free don't go. The paywall isn't so much from content but from the riff raff; those that want everything and want it now and god almighty someone should attempt to break even at their expense. I'm not saying all non-benefactor members are riff raff but I am saying that most riff raff is found among non-benefactor members. Hey, I call it like I see it.

I wish it were that easy; redirecting the domain to a scrubforum would last about a week, tops. We moved from a $100.00 a year forum host account to a $500.00 a year VPS; this allowed us the server resources and bandwidth to be able to host this site. That is entirely funded through donations, adsense ads and my own pocket. That doesn't include the $180.00 in license fees that the new software cost, the plugin fees for some of the plugins that weren't native etc. Scrub free forums would shut is down in a heartbeat.

Well, there are sites out there that cater to those who want everything for free and they are welcome to them. Don't get bent because someone isn't doing something the way you want it done, move on and save everyone the aggravation (yourself included). If it shady then you don't have to pay or participate. In fact even if you do participate you still don't have to pay. We've never forced people to pay for MWO content. Benefactors do get some things but those usually involve my real life time and that isn't something I'm going to give away for free no matter how unjust others may view it.

See, I have the luxury of not giving a shit whether people play MWO or not. I'm not PGI or NGNG. My life, and income, aren't tied to this game (or any other). It is what it is. Behold, a door, it swings both ways.

 

Why would a free forum thing shut down in a week? I'm curious as to how that works. You mean stuff like, couldn't plug in smurfy etc? They are just links, ie copy + paste would save you triple digits?

I've had sites with unlimited bandwidth that cost about 12 bucks a month, I just don't get how the money adds up like that.

 

Unlimited bandwidth for 12$ a month? Unlikely. They may state that but when they find sites that actually use massive levels of bandwidth all of a sudden things start to go belly up. We use over 200gb or more of bandwidth per month, mostly from guests, but that isn't the primary limiter. That honor belongs to when there are 60-70 people online at one time chewing up the server resources. We can't survive on a shared server. We've shut down two really good ones already (one of them asked us to leave).

Next, will we get an SSL certificate? Many people want that these days as their "secret video game thoughts are supposed to be secured".

What happens if the server goes down? Do I have to wait for one of them to get up in the middle of the night and manage it versus answering the text message I receive and restarting the server myself? Are there backups provided for when someone attempts to hack you and you then have to apply a backup because somehow someone go through security?

As I said before, it is what it is. If people don't like it then go forth elsewhere and find somewhere you do like. If you like being part of the community over here then remain here and participate; your paying or not paying is irrelevant to either of the aforementioned options.