[FEEDBACK] Dec 9th 2014 Patch Feedback

Thank god they are getting rid of those stupid statues on river city. Now make some of the environment destructible, nothing worse than 4 large lasers not being able to cut through a rotting tree trunk in the bog.

 

What?!?!?! But I'm a HUGE fan of my 35 ton machine of death moving at 150kph and getting stopped to zero by a little fucking road sign?!?!?! Why would you EVER want destructible environments?!?!? /sarcasm

 

10 out of ~45 listed mechs quirk-changed enough that I'm changing builds on them. Not too bad, but I read somewhere that Russ said this is only about 1/3 of the IS changes planned. So, 20 more after these.

Plus the Lynx, Nova, Summoner quirks coming tomorrow as well that are, as yet, unknown.

 

If you browse through the Reddit comments, you'll see that Sean Lang (Insider Man) gives some hints on what'll be changed after the holidays.

For example: Highlanders, Locusts, and Orions.

 

You could post them here so that people don't have to hunt through the cess that can be Reddit.

 

This is kind of awesome.. People are going to get crazy about Firestarters and Spiders being total crap now
And maybe I won't be feeling like a complete idiot in my hipster commando anymore.

Change is GOOD!

 

I mean hey, they doubled Leg structure bonus and removed SRm6 quirk and made it a 30% general missile cooldown thing..
Yeah I know what I'll be driving exclusively from now on

COM-3A
 Structure Strength (LL&RL) +12
 Structure Strength (LA&RA) +8
 Missile Weapon Range +15%
 Missile Weapon Cooldown +30%
 Missile Weapon Heat Gen -15%
 Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
 Turn Rate +10%
 Reverse Speed +12.6%

 

I braved it for you Wasn't too bad this time Spoiler tags for your quirk change list (from https://static.mwomercs.com/downloads/Inner Sphere Quirks - Update December.pdf) - the short version is that some quirks got changed, a couple got nerfed, and some Tier 1 got quirks too (I noticed Ember and JR7-F/D/D(S) in the list). Includes King Crab quirks, but no Clan quirks in the list.

Edit: Incidentally, it took 100x longer to edit the PDF so it would post right here than it did to find it

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COM1-B
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +12
Structure Strength (LA&RA) +8
Large Laser Range +10%
Energy Weapon Range +10%
Medium Laser Cooldown +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +10%
Medium Laser Duration-10%
Laser Duration-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
Turn Rate +10%
Reverse Speed +12.6%

COM-1D
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +12
Structure Strength (LA&RA) +8
Medium Pulse Range +20%
Energy Weapon Range +20%
Medium Pulse Cooldown +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Turn Rate +10%
Reverse Speed +12.6%

COM-2D
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +12
Structure Strength (LA&RA) +8
Missile Weapon Range +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%

COM-3A
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +12
Structure Strength (LA&RA) +8
Missile Weapon Range +15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +30%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-15%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Turn Rate +10%
Reverse Speed +12.6%

Death's Knell
Structure Strength (LL&RL) +12
Structure Strength (LA&RA) +8
Medium Laser Range +7.5%
Energy Weapon Range +7.5%
Laser Duration-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%

FS9-A
Small Pulse Range +7.5%
Energy Weapon Range +7.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%

FS9-H
Medium Laser Heat Gen-7.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-7.5%
Energy Weapon Range +10%

FS9-K
Laser Duration-10%
Energy Weapon Range +10%

FS9-S
Medium Pulse Heat Gen-15%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-15%

FS9-Ember
Laser Duration-7.5%
Ballistic Weapon Range +7.5%

JR7-D
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%

JR7-D(S)
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%

JR7-F
Energy Weapon Range +7.5%

JR7-K
Medium Pulse Cooldown +7.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%

JR7-Oxide
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +4
SRM/4 Range +7.5%
Missile Weapon Range +7.5%
SRM/4 Cooldown +7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
SRM/4 Heat Gen-7.5%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-7.5%

VND-1AA
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +7
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +11
PPC Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
PPC Velocity +40%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%

VND-1R
Additional Structure (RA&LA)+7
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +11
PPC Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
PPC Velocity +40%
Medium Laser Cooldown +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%

VND-1X
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +7
Additional Structure (LL&RL)+11
PPC Heat Gen-12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
PPC Velocity +25%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +15%
Ballisitc Weapon Range +15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%

VND-St. Ives Blues
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +7
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +11
Large Laser Range +7.5%
Energy Weapon Range +7.5%
Laser Duration-20%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%

CN9-A
Additional Armour (LA) +16
Additional Structure (RA) +16
AC/10 Cooldown +10%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +10%
AC/10 Velocity +10%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +10%
Laser Duration-12.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%
Turn rate +10%
Deceleration +10%

CN9-AL
Additional Armour (LA) +16
Additional Structure (RA) +16
Large Laser Coldown +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +10%
Large Laser Duration-10%
Laser Duration-10%
Large Laser Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%
Turn rate +10%
Deceleration +10%

CN9-D
Additional Armour (LA) +16
Additional Structure (RA) +16
LB-10-X Cooldown +20%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +20%
LB-10-X Velocity +10%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%
Deceleration +10%

CN9-YLW
Additional Armour (LA) +16
Additional Structure (RA) +16
AC/20 Range +10%
Ballistic Weapon Range +10%
AC/20 Cooldown +10%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +10%
AC/20 Velocity +10%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +56.3%
Torso pitch speed +24.4%
Turn rate +5%

CN9-AH
Additional Armour (LA) +16
Additional Structure (RA) +16
AC/20 Cooldown +10%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +10%
AC/20 Velocity +10%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Missile Weapon Range +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +35%
Turn rate +10%
Deceleration +10%

HBK-4G
Additional Armor (RT) +18
Additional Structure (RT) +12
AC/20 Range +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Range +12.5%
AC/20 Cooldown +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
AC/20 Velocity +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-15%
Energy Weapon Range +15%
Torso yaw speed +37.5%
Torso pitch speed +10%

HBK-4H
Additional Armor (RT) +18
Additional Structure (RT) +12
AC/10 Range +10%
Ballistic Weapon Range +10%
AC/10 Cooldown +10%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +10%
Medium Laser Cooldown +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown+10%
Medium Laser Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Torso yaw speed +37.5%
Torso pitch speed +10%

HBK-4J
Additional Armor (RT) +12
Additional Structure (RT) +12
LRM/10 Cooldown +25%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +25%
LRM/10 Heat Gen-12.5%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-15%
Laser Duration-15%
Torso yaw speed +37.5%
Torso pitch speed +10%

HBK-4P
Additional Armor (RT) +18
Additional Structure (RT) +12
Medium Laser Cooldown +7.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Medium Laser Duration-7.5%
Laser Weapon Duration-7.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Torso yaw speed +37.5%
Torso pitch speed +10%

HBK-Grid Iron
Additional Armor (RT) +18
Additional Structure (RT) +12
Medium Pulse Range +25%
Energy Weapon Range +25%
Medium Pulse Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Gauss Rifle Cooldown +25%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +25%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%
Torso yaw speed +37.5%
Torso pitch speed +10%

HBK-4SP
Additional Armor (RT&LT) +12
Additional Structure (RT&LT)+12
SRM/6 Cooldown +20%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +20%
Laser Duration-25%
Medium Laser Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Torso yaw speed +37.5%
Torso pitch speed +10%

KTO-18
LRM/5 Cooldown +7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
LRM/5 Heat Gen-7.5%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-7.5%
Laser Duration-10%
Torso yaw speed +25%

KTO-19
SRM/4 Cooldown +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%
SRM/4 Range +10%
Missile Weapon Range +10%
SRM/4 Heat Gen-10%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%

KTO-20
Large Laser Range +10%
Energy Weapon Range +10%
Large Laser Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Medium Laser Duration-10%
Laser Weapon Duration-10%
Missile Weapon Range +12.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%

KTO-Golden Boy
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
Medium Pulse Laser Cooldown +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +10%
Energy Weapon Range +12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%

SHD-2D
AC/5 Cooldown +5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +7.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%
Turn rate +5%

SHD-2D2
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Laser Duration-7.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%
Turn rate +5%

SHD-2H
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +7.5%

SHD-2K
PPC Velocity +10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%

SHD-5M
UAC/5 Cooldown +5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +5%
Laser Duration-7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%

SHD-GD
Additional Structure (LA&RA) +9
Laser Duration-7.5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Torso yaw speed +25%
Turn rate +5%

DRG-1C
Additional Structure CT +24
Additional Structure RA +6
Laser Duration-15%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Energy Weapon Range +15%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%
Torso yaw speed +10%

DRG-1N
Additional Structure CT +24
Additional Structure RA +6
AC/5 Cooldown +25%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +25%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Energy Weapon Range +15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%
Torso yaw speed +10%

DRG-5N
Additional Structure CT +24
Additional Structure RA +6
UAC/5 Cooldown +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +15%
Ballistic Weapon Range +15%
Laser Duation-15%
Energy Weapon Cooldown-15%
Torso yaw speed +10%

DRG-FANG
Additional Structure CT +24
Additional Structure RA +6
AC/10 Cooldown +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
AC/10 Velocity +12.5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-15%
Laser Duration-15%
Torso yaw speed +10%

DRG-FLAME
Additional Structure CT +24
Additional Structure LT +9
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +10%
Ballistic Weapon Range +10%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +10%
Laser Duration-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Torso yaw speed +10%

CPLT-A1
Additional Structure (RA&LA)+10
Additional Structure (CT) +10
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%

CPLT-C1
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +10
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +8
LRM/15 Cooldown +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%
Laser Duration +12.5%
Energy Weapon Range +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%

CPLT-C4
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +10
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +8
LRM/20 Cooldown +12.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
LRM/20 Heat Gen-12.5%
Missile Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
Energy Weapon Range +15%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%

CPLT-K2
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +10
PPC Velocity +20%
Medium Laser Duration-7.5%
Laser Duration-7.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Ballistic Weapon Range +10%

CPLT-J
Additional Structure (RA&LA) +10
Additional Structure (CT) +10
Large Laser Range +7.5%
Energy Weapon Range 7.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Laser Duration-10%

TDR-5S
Structure Strength (LT&RT) +15
Large Laser Range +12.5%
EnergyWeapon Range +12.5%
Large Laser Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Medium Laser Duration-12.5%
Laser Weapon Duration-12.5%
Medium Laser Heat Gen-12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-12.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%

TDR-5SS
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +15
Medium Pulse Range +25%
Energy Weapon Range +25%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-15%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +15%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +15%

TDR-9S
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +15
ER-PPC Heat Gen-25%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-25%
ER-PPC Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
ER-PPC Velocity +15%
Laser Duration-15%

TDR-9SE
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +15
Large Pulse Heat Gen-10%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-10%
Large Pulse Range +10%
Energy Weapon Range +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
LaserDuration-12.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +12.5%

VTR-9B
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +10
Ballistic Velocity +7.5%
Laser Duration-7.5%

VTR-9K
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +10
Gauss Rifle Cooldown +5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +5%
Laser Duration-7.5%

VTR-9S
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +10
Ballistic Velocity +7.5%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5%

VTR-DS
Additional Structure (LL&RL) +10
Gauss Rifle Cooldown +5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +5%
PPC Velocity +7.5%

KGC-000
Armor Strength (RA&LA) +17
AC/20 Velocity+7.5%
Ballistic Weapon Velocity +7.5%
AC/20 Cooldown +7.5%
Ballistic Weapon Cooldown +7.5%
Laser Duration-10%
Torso yaw speed +25%

KGC-0000
Armor Strength (RA&LA) +17
Energy Weapon Cooldown+10%
Laser Duration-10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +7.5% +10%
Torso yaw speed +25%

KGC - 000b
Armor Strength (RA&LA) +17
Ballistic Velocity +10%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +10%
Missile Weapon Cooldown +10%
Torso yaw speed +25%

 

King Crab KGC-000 has 6 B hardpoints in the ARMS ! Will a 4x AC5 2x AC2 build possible ?
With IS ballistict it would totally outclass the direwolf.

Jenner FTW (even tho my new K gets a nerf on heat gen. and it's already very hot), but I still won't get the Jenner D back as it's redundant with the F and Oxide, I prefer going pure and the quirks are meh, the K still makes a better narcer then the D now as well. !
Dragon 1N doesn't change on the dakka side, surprised

PS: nova quirks ! the poor guy gets some love

EDIT : FUCK IT, -30% heat gen of MPL on firestarter with 6 energy, and my K gets a nerf? Why all this firestarters love?

 

Will give some thoughts later but some of those are very clever - e.g. the DRG-1N nerf leaves the AC5 untouched but the ERLL loses 10% cooldown and 25% duration. Thats a BIG hit on the support side as its no longer very effective as an opening weapon or after you've run out of ammo. If you're running ML's then you get a 2.5% cooldown/range bonus but lose 12.5% duration. They added a totally redundant missile bonus to pretend it hadn't been nerfed..... why would we add a missile launcher and ammo as a support weapon on an AC5 beast?

 

Wait....

From:

TDR-9S
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +10
ER-PPC Heat Generation -12.5%
Energy Weapon Heat Generation -12.5%
ER-PPC Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Range +15%
Laser Duration -15%
Missile Weapon Range +15%

To:

TDR-9S
Additional Structure (LT&RT) +15
ER-PPC Heat Gen-25%
Energy Weapon Heat Gen-25%
ER-PPC Cooldown +12.5%
Energy Weapon Cooldown +12.5%
ER-PPC Velocity +15%
Laser Duration-15%

Is that right?

Thats one of my builds VERY happy as I'll swap 15% range for 25% heat and 15% velocity on an ER PPC any day.

 

COM-3A looks interesting with a 30% missile cooldown.

 

FS9-S radically changed from 15% ERLL cooldown/duration to 30% heat gen on MPL.

FS9-A heat will be worse as SPL down from 15 to 10%.

Ember gets minor quirks (-7.5% duration on laser and +7.5% range on ballistics).

NB: Hitbox changes on FS9's as well....

 

Jenners mostly slight tweaks but the JR7-K lost 5% heat gen bonus for its MPL....

JR7-F gained energy weapon range +7.5%.
JR7-D changed to missile cooldown -7.5%.

 

Vindicators look like clones as their bonuses were heavily revamped. All gained structure improvements.

I liked the 1AA already so not going to complain about its changes - a whopping increase to 40% PPC velocity, a rather weird new missile weapon 12.5% cooldown bonus and retained its 20% PPC heat gen.

The 1R is identical to the 1AA above except on top it changes the generic energy cooldown bonus to 20% ML (10% generic).

The 1X is very different to the original - adds structure, and a 15% ballistic cooldown/range bonus on top of everything it had before.

St Ives Blue adds laser Duration -20% and structure improvements.

 

Except they hit the quad MPL Jenner as well as its heat is delicate already unless you lose armour/engine for heatsinks. It gets worse.

 

CN9-A radically changed to an AC10 with SRM and laser support - AC10 20% cooldown and velocity, 12.5% laser duration and 12.5% missile cooldown. Huge improvement IMO.

CN9-AL changed from a LPL to LL boat. LL cooldown/duration/heat gen bonuses. Note the lack of a range bonus. Retains its 12.5% missile cooldown bonus. Interesting.

CN9-D mostly unchanged but the SRM4 10/20% range became a generic 12.5% cooldown. Nice.

CN9-AH changed its missile bonuses from 20 (10%) cooldown/range to 12.5% generic. Thanks whiners you gelded it totally.