TBT-3C Mythweaver's Trebuchet (4x MLas, 2x SSRM2, XL390)

Thread in 'TBT-3C' started by Mythweaver, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. Mythweaver

    Mythweaver Advanced Member

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    This 'Mech doesn't exist yet. I am 3 Million from purchasing the Engine but once that's done I'll be testing it out.
    My intension is to create a fast moving trouble shooter. With the Speed and Fire Power of a Jennerceptor but the Durability of a Medium 'Mech. I will move with the Direct or Indirect Fire Support elements to act as Security (Primary Role) but will Intercept (Secondary Role) Enemy 'Mech's as needed by other Team Mates.
    Tell me what you think.

    Thanks,

    Myth.
     
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  2. FuzzyBunny

    FuzzyBunny MechSpecs Addict

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    I'd suggest dropping down to the XL380, you only lose 4 KPH, but gain 2.5 tons. You can then upgrade the Streaks to SRM 4's, I'm not a fan of streaks on an interceptor as to many things you will have to intercept will have ECM. Finally use the left over tonnage to go with 2 tons of SRM ammo and raise the upper armor values. Lower the legs a tiny bit to max out everything on the top.
     
  3. Mythweaver

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    Thanks for the input. I may very well go with the XL 380 Engine and gain some Ammo and Armor. It is unlikely that this 'Mech will be tasked to fight ECM Lights since we almost always run with Pilots Tasked for that specific role. Perhaps Interceptor isn't the best name for it, more like a Trouble Shooter. I like the fire and forget missiles for engaging more than one 'Mech at a time; lock on Secondary target and maintain Laser fire on Primary...

    Thanks again for your input,

    Myth.:smile:
     
  4. FuzzyBunny

    FuzzyBunny MechSpecs Addict

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    No problem Myth. I also like the XL380 as it serves a double purpose inside my Awesome 9M. For such an expensive engine it better have multiple uses.
     
  5. Morgana

    Morgana Dispossessed

    SRM's are all good and fine, but, going 150 kph?!! Maybe you are a better shot than I am (wouldn't be that hard lol) but I don't foresee having much accuracy with your shots at that speed. I would keep the SSRM's and make up the difference with armor.

    What I'm not content with, is the fact that this CAN go as fast as a mech 15 tons lighter. That, to me, just doesn't seem right and shouldn't be possible.....but that's just my personal opinion.
     
  6. Michael

    Michael Grand Poobah

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    Spoken like a true Jenner-exclusive pilot :wink: :ph34r:
     
  7. Mythweaver

    Mythweaver Advanced Member

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    I agree with you all the way Morgana. I'm a light 'Mech Pilot at heart as well but if they are going to allow a Med. 'Mech to travel at "Light Speed" then I don't feel badly about taking advantage.

    This 'Mech ran it's first three matches this morning. I went with the XL390 because I could! It does 126.something without Speed Tweak but still isn't as manouverable as a lighter 'Mech moving at an equal speed. I managed to win a one on one engagement with a Raven RVN-3L that was using Standard SRM's instead of Streaks and managed to pull out a win against him. All of my damaged locations were still in the yellow so the added armor is a good thing. It is going to take alot of testing to see if it is really worth while to make a Medium 'Mech go this fast; but I'll keep at it at let you know in a week or so.

    Myth.:D
     
  8. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    One thing to keep in mind is that when you run a 50-ton mech this fast, you are generally limiting your potential firepower to below that of a 35-40 ton mech with better speed and similar armor. I'm pretty sure a Jenner with a 300 XL could fit more ammo and heat sinks than this baby, while being a much smaller target to hit.

    You're looking at 17.5 tons for the Jenner's 300 XL engine, and 35 tons for the Treb's 390. That, and the fact that endo-steel internals weigh 0.75 tons more in a mech that weighs 15 tons more, and you're looking at actually 3.25 tons LESS available than a Jenner with a 300 XL and endo-steel. In comparison, the Jenner can go 12 kph faster (pre-tweak) and is a much smaller platform.

    I, too, had considered going with a 50-ton mech with a huge engine compartment to keep up with the lights, but I've found that if you want a quick-moving skirmisher, a 300 or 325 XL engine is more than plenty, and lets you ramp up the firepower by a significant amount. Comparing a Jenner with a 300 XL to a Treb with a 300 XL, and the Treb now is about 33 kph slower, but has 14.25 extra tons to play with.

    Propably not what you want to hear Mythweaver, but it's my honest opinion based on the numbers I've seen. If you're having fun, I can't argue with that, but I think the sweet-spot for the Treb is in the 90s and 100s (lower if you're playing ranged support, i.e. poptart sniper or LRM boat), not 130s.

    Side note: I think the potential to go faster increases your turn speed when going slower (i.e. if your engine lets you go 100, and you're going 50, you will turn faster than someone who is going at max speed at 50).

    Post Script: 139 kph is only 0.0000001288% of light speed. (I know what you meant, just being a smart aleck).

    Post Post Script: Despite the above, I'm saving up for a 375 XL to do 4 medium pulse.
     
  9. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    4 MPL with 12 DHS ran way too hot. I'm running this build, except without AMS, but with a tad more armor, 375 XL engine, 1 more ton SSRM ammo, and an extra couple DHS. I have FF+ES for additional weight savings.

    I think I would prefer going back down to a 325 XL and increasing the firepower, but I figured I might as well add some variety, and this is the only Treb model that will let me go faster than 115 kph. This works as a light hunter, but for a serious medium-class light-hunter I'd bring either a Cicada going 150+ or a Trebuchet at 115 (with a similar build, but more DHS).
     
  10. Mythweaver

    Mythweaver Advanced Member

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    I am running this 'mech merely to level up the chassy. I will probably sell it when I'm finished. I agree that math hammering makes sense but I don't have the time to do so...playing is about having fun for me and I never found math to be fun.
     
  11. skribs

    skribs Min-Max Maniac

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    That is where you and I differ, my friend.
     
  12. Blagg Zear

    Blagg Zear Star Lord

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    This build seems very interesting because of the insane speed for a medium. I'll give it a try but with some little tweaks with more Armor+Ammo+BAP:



    or:

     
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  13. enileph

    enileph Star Lord

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    It is ok to skip the extra DHS though, I think.
     
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